Projecttitel: RE-808
Status: IN PROGRESS
Startdate: 11/2021
Duedate: 12/2022
Last Update: 02.April 2023
Manufacture link: https://shop.re-303.com/product/re-808-bundle-3rd-run-advance-order/
source: Facebook.
after the RE-303, RE-606, RE-909 we have the RE-808 replica to build.
its an replica, which means 99.9% of everything is a replica - the pcbs, the case, the parts.
the only difference are replacement tactile switch of the sequencer.
but you can repair your TR-808 with the RE-808 parts.
Infos and groups:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1095915370823319
BOM:
PCBs and some parts are available from the RE-303 shop
Cases and side panels are available from Kumptronics
Start/Stop cover and Tap cover of the switches are available from few Facebook users for now, maybe available later thru other suppliers.
Spacers (not in the BOM - but maybe supplied with the RE-808 case)
7 3 x 8mm FF Hex Spacer
4 3 x 10mm FF Hex Spacer
5 3 x 16.4mm FF Hex Spacer
3 3 x 18mm Hex Spacer
2 3 x 8mm MF Hex Spacer 8mm w/ 6mm Screw
Buildguide: (uploaded 08.May.2022 by DSL-man)
RE-808 Switchboard Assembling v1.0.pdf
Alps Switches Modding Guide v1.0.pdf
RE-808-MYC-manual-midicable.pdf
NEW: RE-808 Case assembling guide. RE-808 assembly guide.pdf
Placement guide:
RE-808_Component_Placement_Guide_v1.0.0.pdf
Firmware Installation (on your own risk)
the following steps are described for customers who didn't know which bootloader is installed atm. Some 808 pixies was sent in December/January 2022 and this can contain a very old boot loader 1.2
in case you bought the pixie in late2022 or in 2023 your pixie should preinstalled with 1.30 or later (in this case you only have to install the 808.sysex and the REEMU1.30 and later make the upgrade of the 1.4.3 bootloader and 1.43 REEMU
- turn on and send 808.sysxex with sysex librian tool
- turn off and on again
- send the boot loader sysex (1.30 version)
- turn off
- turn on while hold Step1 (all lets flashes like night rider mode)(some older boot loaders don't have the night rider mode)
- now send the REEMU 1.3.0 sysex
- machine restarts byself in 1.3.0 mode
- turn off and on the 808
- send the 808.sysex again
- reload the boot loader 1.4.3 in boot loader mode (hold step1) and upload the REEMU 1.4.3 sysex
https://github.com/sunflowr/recpu/releases/download/v1.4.3/recpu_manual.1.4.3.pdf
Issue List
ID | Issue | Fix | date | fixed version |
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1 | CPU mounting | As you can see you also need to do a jumper wire between the solder point marked A on the pixie cpu and pin 10 (!WE pin) of *any* of IC 7,8,9 or 10 (they’re all connected to the same signal) | 01/2022 | |
2 | PSU | Do not fit the DC jack on the PSU circuit board. Its not used and it is not wired correctly. use a cable for the jack as shown for example | 01/2022 | |
3 | Tactiles /caps install | heres a tip about the installation of the tactile caps: | 01/2022 | |
4 | MIDI WIRING | credits to a FB User.. | 11/2022 | |
5 | Silkscreen wrong | 11/2022 | ||
6 | Mainboard resistors - handclap | in case you have the trimmer on solder side (recommended) Add the R200 (10K) as shown in the left picture above at the 2 red dots. | 11/2022 | |
7 | guide /tip | for the voice board: first install all 1/8watt resistors on bottom of the pcb R1-9 are 1/8w or the switchboard do not fit use MLCC caps there and no IC socket. for IC1. when you have a solder frame: install the flat Trannys and ic sockets before you install the other parts for mainboard use for the noise transistor and muting trannys - ic socket pins to swap/change the trannys install good trimmers from nearside instead cheap trimmers from component side - better calibration possible | 11/2022 | |
8 | Transistors - sequencer failure | use sockets for the muting transistors. some users reported issues in combination with the pixie CPU, boot/start problems. the muting Transistors affect this - you can remove this. | 1.Dec.2022 | |
9 | Power Pinout |
credits by Martin.J.K - Thank you | 02.Jan.2023 | |
10 | general | install good trimmers on back side (solder side) - for easier calibration install the BA662 clone on solder side - in this was you can use a socket install the muting JFETS and noise Transitor on solder side for easier swapping install R333 on solder side to give you the opportunity to replace this with a trimmer (50k) to change the handclap sound.. | 02.Jan.2023 | |
11 | bugfix | install a jumper as shown to get your 808 working as designed | 03. Jan.2023 | |
12 | capacitor on Sync jack | install a 10nF polyester cap or bipolar electrolyte cap at the sync jack or on the pcb | ||
13 | clock calibration fix | remove C203 on mainboard (39nF) or your clock can't be calibrated in case you can't reach 120hz by trimmer end, install a 2M2 resistor in parallel on R43 | 04.Jan.2023 | |
14 | calibration/mod | Hi tom noise level = R273 BassDrum Endless/Extended Decay -- replaced R170 (470k) with 370k resistor in series with a 100k potentiometer. then i set the potentiometer to the 'sweet spot', where the extra decay sounded best to me, and measured the resistance of the 370k resistor plus the resistance of the potentiometer setting. on my Yocto, 445k was the nicest value for self-oscillating/extreme decay source: https://www.e-licktronic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=143 | 02.April 2023 | |
15 | wiring | some help.. found on FB | ||
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17 | MIDI connection MOD | the 3D printed part is available in my shop https://www.diysynth.de/spezial-re-808-parts/re-808-midi-anschluss-3d-druck.html or print it myself (Resin preferred) just use 2 screws to mount this at the typenumber plate holes at the rear and drill a small for the MIDI cables.
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18 | 3D Print tool rotary switch | this tool make things easier. just drop the rotary switch inside and its easy to saw the switch to the exact given length available in my shop : https://www.diysynth.de/spezial-re-808-parts/re808-schaltersaegehilfe-3druck-teil.html | ||
19 | Tip Rotary Switches | for much easier rotary switch assembling, use this knowledge PLUS the ALPS assembly guide, my infos are a additional tip how to remove and bend the tabs. Background: we dont need the upper part of the D shaft switches and we don't need the lower part of the knurled switches. for the D shaft switches you can bend the tabs at the bottom for removal as close you can - because we dont need the upper part - put the upper part (metal) in the trash bin.
for the knurled switches you can cut the pcb on bottom to remove the bottom part without bending the tabs, after you have removed the pcb - you can much easier bend the tabs !!!
after you proceed the other steps as described in the guide , you have to bend back the pins which hold the bottom part and upper part. I used here 2 tools and a hammer. in first step I punched with the smaller hex. and the hammer and later with the bigger hex. and a hammer. | ||
20 | recommend Mods for Clap and Snare | remove R333 and install a 50K trimmer from solder side - this adds the opportunity of changing the Clap frequency/bandpass Install a header for the Noise Tranny of the PCB Solderside - you can try different Noise transistors of your choice (less white noise at the snare, gain stage between handclap and Snare, a loud Handclap is wrong, too much white noise at the snare is wrong) forget the 133mV AC measurement of the noise Tranny - the important thing is the spectrum of the noise. use a transistor tester (peak tech for example to get the correct polarity or use the datatsheets) Furthermore: (highly recommend) you change C55 from 0.47uF to 0.68uF (or up to 1uF) to get more reverb/room on the Snare. only do this mod when you are lucky with the snare sound except the reverb part is too small (personal choice) its not recommend to do this mod until you have found a good noise transistor otherwise you have too many variables. | 02.April 2023 | |
21 | Cowbell bugfixing | in case your cowbell is out of the trimmer range while calibration 800hz/540hz install in parallel to R44 a 10K resistor and the same for R55 (add a 10K in parallel) in case you have failures in the cowbell, here's a good page: visit http://frisnit.com/roland-tr-808-cowbell-rebuild/ | 02.April 2023 | |
22 | Grounding /wiring | make sure you have a groundcable from the 2 Jackboard pcbs to your DC-DC PSU- otherwise the sequencer do not start I recommend a cable from the sync jack ground to the Dc-DC psu GND pads too, the 808 case is powder coated and you can't get a true earth there without scratching/removing the paint. some users get a buzz/clickinmg sound by touching the case or metal parts.. that's the reason - you need a solid ground from the case and jackboard pcbs to the PSU. | 02.April 2023 | |
23 | Cymbal Mod | source: https://www.modwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=264016 change :The modification involves changing C40 (in the middle branch next to the 33k resistor) from 1µF to 100nF Raising C41 gives a longer decay- (not tested by me) Technical paper: tr_808_cymbal_a_physically_informed_circuit_bendable_digital.pdf | 04.April 2023 | |
24 | general tip | mount the DIN jack from inside of the Case - don´t install the DIN socket thru the metal case, in case of trouble shooting its much easier with the wiring - otherwise you have to disconnect/desolder some cables. | 06.April 2023 |
Version | Date | Comment |
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Current Version (v. 42) | Apr 06, 2023 10:17 |
Patrick Joericke
: Din jack mounting |
v. 72 | Oct 04, 2024 17:57 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 71 | Oct 04, 2024 17:49 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 70 | Oct 04, 2024 17:47 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 69 | Oct 04, 2024 17:47 |
Patrick Joericke
Troubleshooting added |
v. 68 | Sept 28, 2024 17:45 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 67 | Sept 28, 2024 17:34 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 66 | Jun 14, 2024 09:21 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 65 | Jan 04, 2024 09:34 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 64 | Jan 04, 2024 09:32 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 63 | Sept 14, 2023 16:06 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 62 | Sept 14, 2023 16:06 |
Patrick Joericke
GND wiring updated |
v. 61 | Sept 14, 2023 16:01 |
Patrick Joericke
Reverted from v. 59 |
v. 60 | Sept 14, 2023 09:07 |
Patrick Joericke
grounding changed - no GND on the case needed. |
v. 59 | Jul 21, 2023 21:14 |
Patrick Joericke
new 808 cable picture in HD and cable length pdf |
v. 58 | Jun 02, 2023 07:41 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 57 | Jun 02, 2023 07:36 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 56 | Jun 02, 2023 07:29 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 55 | Jun 01, 2023 10:10 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 54 | May 31, 2023 09:44 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 53 | May 31, 2023 09:41 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 52 | May 31, 2023 09:29 |
Patrick Joericke
wiring pictures added |
v. 51 | May 11, 2023 14:50 |
Patrick Joericke
cowbell trimmers |
v. 50 | May 10, 2023 14:19 |
Patrick Joericke
LED Resistors |
v. 49 | May 09, 2023 20:05 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 48 | May 04, 2023 12:47 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 47 | May 04, 2023 12:46 |
Patrick Joericke
pictures added |
v. 46 | May 04, 2023 12:43 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 45 | Apr 17, 2023 09:42 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 44 | Apr 13, 2023 12:41 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 43 | Apr 13, 2023 09:37 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 42 | Apr 06, 2023 10:17 |
Patrick Joericke
Din jack mounting |
v. 41 | Apr 04, 2023 20:36 |
Patrick Joericke
Cymbal Mod |
v. 40 | Apr 03, 2023 12:29 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 39 | Apr 03, 2023 12:09 |
Patrick Joericke
R200 fix - picture added |
v. 38 | Apr 03, 2023 12:02 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 37 | Apr 02, 2023 20:32 |
Patrick Joericke
mods, improvements, tips |
v. 36 | Mar 27, 2023 20:32 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 35 | Mar 05, 2023 17:17 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 34 | Feb 24, 2023 10:49 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 33 | Feb 24, 2023 10:00 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 32 | Feb 23, 2023 16:38 |
Patrick Joericke
rotary switch |
v. 31 | Feb 21, 2023 08:26 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 30 | Feb 21, 2023 08:21 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 29 | Feb 21, 2023 07:42 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 28 | Feb 07, 2023 11:17 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 27 | Jan 20, 2023 12:02 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 26 | Jan 04, 2023 16:26 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 25 | Jan 04, 2023 15:40 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 24 | Jan 04, 2023 15:39 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 23 | Jan 04, 2023 15:35 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 22 | Jan 03, 2023 22:15 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 21 | Jan 03, 2023 22:08 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 20 | Jan 03, 2023 13:52 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 19 | Jan 03, 2023 13:45 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 18 | Jan 03, 2023 13:41 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 17 | Jan 03, 2023 13:41 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 16 | Jan 02, 2023 12:43 |
Patrick Joericke
tipps added |
v. 15 | Jan 02, 2023 12:40 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 14 | Dec 03, 2022 10:05 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 13 | Nov 25, 2022 13:31 |
Patrick Joericke
build tips |
v. 12 | Nov 25, 2022 13:26 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 11 | Nov 25, 2022 13:26 |
Patrick Joericke
case assembly guide added |
v. 10 | Nov 21, 2022 17:28 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 9 | Nov 17, 2022 12:44 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 8 | Nov 17, 2022 12:42 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 7 | May 08, 2022 17:13 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 6 | May 08, 2022 17:05 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 5 | May 08, 2022 17:03 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 4 | May 08, 2022 17:01 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 3 | May 08, 2022 16:52 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 2 | May 08, 2022 16:51 | Patrick Joericke |
v. 1 | May 08, 2022 16:49 | Patrick Joericke |